I Need A Guide To PVP - Guild Wars Forums

Hurricane jr · Aug 16, 2010, 10:40 AM // 10:40

Well i would say that I know pvp but i can't seem to get in any groups in HA because my ranks aren't high enough so how does beginner get into a group in heroes ascent i need a few suggestions

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 16, 2010, 11:36 AM // 11:36

If you aren't ranked you'll either be stuck in groups with people as clueless as you (and you'll fail) or sit around waiting forever. What you need to do if you really want to get into PvP is join a PvP oriented guild that is willing to put time into teaching you stuff. Pay attention to what builds are used, why they are used, etc. Getting a few good PvP'ers that are happy to PvP with you on your friends list is also a good thing.

fowlero · Aug 16, 2010, 11:44 AM // 11:44

Once you get a taste decide on a main position, frontline (wars) midline (casters) or backline (monks).

Then guru and quitter have a plethora of guides.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/h...t10105129.html
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/b...t10405748.html
http://www.teamquitter.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=128 - look at the stickies, the more recent stuff is usually skill choice so not so relevant to a beginner.

pinkeyflower · Aug 16, 2010, 11:53 AM // 11:53

First look at what is commonly run in HA. No-one wants a PUG'ed ele carrying a bunch of horrible DoTAoE spells (e.g. Meteor Shower, Breath of Fire). Secondly, find out the role of each profession/build and each map layout. Observing is a good way to find out this information. Thirdly, get a VoIP program (e.g. Ventrilo, TeamSpeak, Mumble).

But most importantly, get into a PvP guild/make friends with people that HA a lot. Without this last point you are doomed to spend an eternity before you reach even rank 1.

Killed u man · Aug 16, 2010, 12:34 PM // 12:34

Can always form your own teams. Biggest problem with HA isnt the metality of other people (Not taking you), its the mentality of you yourself. (This isnt directed to you, this is in general)

If noone wants to take you, form yourself. When GW got released, and the first people entered HA (Called Tombs back then), you think they tried to tag along with other, higher ranked, people? No, there was noone else.

Go to PvX wiki, and look for hexway. It??s by a milestone one of the easiest builds to play, and comes closest to ??the PvE experience??, so the difference between farming XX Area in HM and playing HA becomes next to non-existent.

Just make sure you read the guide going with each bar on PvX wiki, and make sure everyone understand how he??s supposed to play his bar. In essence, this build is no different from lets say UW speedclear or MQSC. Everyone has been given a specific bar, and as long as everyone knows what to do, youll fare well.

You dont need vent, you dont need coordination, and you dont need experience to win with this build, so you??ll get some fame eventually. Should be able to get you your R6+ fairly quickly.

Hurricane jr · Aug 16, 2010, 01:58 PM // 13:58

Well ok thanks alot but still if all of you are saying to join a pvp guild then is there any pvp guilds that i could join

X Ghoul · Aug 16, 2010, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by Hurricane jr

Well ok thanks alot but still if all of you are saying to join a pvp guild then is there any pvp guilds that i could join

Guild recruiting forum is a start.

dare49devil · Aug 16, 2010, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed u man

You dont need vent, you dont need coordination, and you dont need experience to win with this build, so you??ll get some fame eventually. Should be able to get you your R6+ fairly quickly.

-Hate this new mentality. It is so flawed.

Hurricane jr · Aug 16, 2010, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by X Ghoul

Guild recruiting forum is a start.

well thanks im still getting grips to this website since i came from Inc gamers a while back

Maver1ck87 · Aug 16, 2010, 05:21 PM // 17:21

Sup dude, all these people kinda have points, joining a guild is the best way to get teams that will win, running something lame e.g. hexway is another way to make this all easier. Once u have got ranks then u can start to get more teams etc etc...

My advice for u, and i dont mean to be harsh with this, is to realise how bad u are. It took me ages to realise i was shit, and only when u realise this can u really begin to improve. Some simple things that will help u improve...
1) pick a roll: frontline, midline, or backline.... probs not backline cos its hard. Get good at it, take pride in being good at it, if midline, weapon swap after every cast, if frontline, fake out prots... whatever but GET GOOD at it. Go to QQ forums (google it) and there are guides to pretty much every class. Read the one for ur class and get good at it.

2) ur equipment is wrong... srsly its wrong, ur starting every match with a disadvantage.... 90% of 'high ranked' players play with the wrong equipment. Im gonna post a thread here listing the correct equipment for every class when i can be bothered... if not pm someone in game who u see on obs mode for top 50 guild and they will tell u correct equipment.

3) obs mode: watch the good players, not for their build, but for how they play. u will lrn a lot.

Pz out peeps

*lemming* · Aug 16, 2010, 11:26 PM // 23:26

The only thing you can really control over getting into PvP is presenting yourself as best as possible. Don't be annoying, be polite, be receptive to criticism, and try to make an obvious effort in improving yourself. Play long enough without turning people off to you and opportunities will eventually open up.

Hurricane jr · Sep 02, 2010, 11:16 AM // 11:16

Im still having problems gettin/starting a hexway. I really need help and i found out that im a midlinder

X CDH X · Sep 02, 2010, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Might be easier to start in Random Arenas as you seem a real noob so picking a build and using it there would help you up to speed with PvP. As everyone says a guild is gonna be the best way to jump into HA but make you sure have an idea of what the current meta builds are and can use the majority of skills on your PvP character

Elektraaa · Sep 02, 2010, 11:34 AM // 11:34

Might want to post in the HA section, you seem mainly focused on that.

Also: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html

Aug 16, 2010, 10:40 AM // 10:40	#1
Hurricane jr Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK For The Win Guild: bond Profession: R/Mo	I Need A Guide To PVP Well i would say that I know pvp but i can't seem to get in any groups in HA because my ranks aren't high enough so how does beginner get into a group in heroes ascent i need a few suggestions

Aug 16, 2010, 11:36 AM // 11:36	#2
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	If you aren't ranked you'll either be stuck in groups with people as clueless as you (and you'll fail) or sit around waiting forever. What you need to do if you really want to get into PvP is join a PvP oriented guild that is willing to put time into teaching you stuff. Pay attention to what builds are used, why they are used, etc. Getting a few good PvP'ers that are happy to PvP with you on your friends list is also a good thing. __________________

Aug 16, 2010, 12:34 PM // 12:34	#5
Killed u man Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2006	Can always form your own teams. Biggest problem with HA isnt the metality of other people (Not taking you), its the mentality of you yourself. (This isnt directed to you, this is in general) If noone wants to take you, form yourself. When GW got released, and the first people entered HA (Called Tombs back then), you think they tried to tag along with other, higher ranked, people? No, there was noone else. Go to PvX wiki, and look for hexway. It??s by a milestone one of the easiest builds to play, and comes closest to ??the PvE experience??, so the difference between farming XX Area in HM and playing HA becomes next to non-existent. Just make sure you read the guide going with each bar on PvX wiki, and make sure everyone understand how he??s supposed to play his bar. In essence, this build is no different from lets say UW speedclear or MQSC. Everyone has been given a specific bar, and as long as everyone knows what to do, youll fare well. You dont need vent, you dont need coordination, and you dont need experience to win with this build, so you??ll get some fame eventually. Should be able to get you your R6+ fairly quickly. Last edited by Killed u man; Aug 16, 2010 at 01:21 PM // 13:21..

Aug 16, 2010, 11:26 PM // 23:26	#11
lemming The Hotshot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Honolulu Guild: International District [id???]	The only thing you can really control over getting into PvP is presenting yourself as best as possible. Don't be annoying, be polite, be receptive to criticism, and try to make an obvious effort in improving yourself. Play long enough without turning people off to you and opportunities will eventually open up. __________________ Interested in GvG? Want to watch some high-level PvP? Check out some streams and recordings!

Aug 16, 2010, 11:44 AM // 11:44	#3
fowlero Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: England, UK Guild: We Are The One And Only [rR]	Once you get a taste decide on a main position, frontline (wars) midline (casters) or backline (monks). Then guru and quitter have a plethora of guides. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/h...t10105129.html http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/b...t10405748.html http://www.teamquitter.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=128 - look at the stickies, the more recent stuff is usually skill choice so not so relevant to a beginner.

Aug 16, 2010, 11:53 AM // 11:53	#4
pinkeyflower Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010	First look at what is commonly run in HA. No-one wants a PUG'ed ele carrying a bunch of horrible DoTAoE spells (e.g. Meteor Shower, Breath of Fire). Secondly, find out the role of each profession/build and each map layout. Observing is a good way to find out this information. Thirdly, get a VoIP program (e.g. Ventrilo, TeamSpeak, Mumble). But most importantly, get into a PvP guild/make friends with people that HA a lot. Without this last point you are doomed to spend an eternity before you reach even rank 1.

Aug 16, 2010, 01:58 PM // 13:58	#6
Hurricane jr Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK For The Win Guild: bond Profession: R/Mo	Well ok thanks alot but still if all of you are saying to join a pvp guild then is there any pvp guilds that i could join

Aug 16, 2010, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#10
Maver1ck87 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2010 Guild: NeMo Profession: W/	Sup dude, all these people kinda have points, joining a guild is the best way to get teams that will win, running something lame e.g. hexway is another way to make this all easier. Once u have got ranks then u can start to get more teams etc etc... My advice for u, and i dont mean to be harsh with this, is to realise how bad u are. It took me ages to realise i was shit, and only when u realise this can u really begin to improve. Some simple things that will help u improve... 1) pick a roll: frontline, midline, or backline.... probs not backline cos its hard. Get good at it, take pride in being good at it, if midline, weapon swap after every cast, if frontline, fake out prots... whatever but GET GOOD at it. Go to QQ forums (google it) and there are guides to pretty much every class. Read the one for ur class and get good at it. 2) ur equipment is wrong... srsly its wrong, ur starting every match with a disadvantage.... 90% of 'high ranked' players play with the wrong equipment. Im gonna post a thread here listing the correct equipment for every class when i can be bothered... if not pm someone in game who u see on obs mode for top 50 guild and they will tell u correct equipment. 3) obs mode: watch the good players, not for their build, but for how they play. u will lrn a lot. Pz out peeps

Sep 02, 2010, 11:16 AM // 11:16	#12
Hurricane jr Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK For The Win Guild: bond Profession: R/Mo	Im still having problems gettin/starting a hexway. I really need help and i found out that im a midlinder

Sep 02, 2010, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#13
X CDH X Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: UK Guild: nEo Profession: Mo/E	Might be easier to start in Random Arenas as you seem a real noob so picking a build and using it there would help you up to speed with PvP. As everyone says a guild is gonna be the best way to jump into HA but make you sure have an idea of what the current meta builds are and can use the majority of skills on your PvP character

Sep 02, 2010, 11:34 AM // 11:34	#14
Elektraaa Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2010	Might want to post in the HA section, you seem mainly focused on that. Also: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html